The family of Terrance “T” Howard, a football player at North Carolina Central University, went live on Facebook Thursday while performing CPR on him, alleging that doctors at Atrium Health Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte administered something harmful through his IV.
Howard died Thursday at the age of 19. He was a graduate of Ridge Point High School in Missouri, Texas, transferred from the University of Alabama to Durham, North Carolina, to pursue his football career. He had been fighting for his life since a serious car accident on Monday.
According to Click2Houston, which spoke with Howard’s parents, he was involved in a minor crash on I-85 near Salisbury, North Carolina, early Monday morning. After exiting his vehicle to check on the occupants of the other car, he was struck by another passing vehicle, resulting in life-threatening injuries, including severe brain trauma.
The family expressed their desire to transfer Howard back to Houston for better medical care and to be closer to them. They started a GoFundMe campaign to help with their financial struggles.
On Thursday, a dramatic situation unfolded in Howard’s hospital room at Carolinas Medical Center. His father, Bishop Anthony Allen, went live on Facebook, alleging that the doctors “decided to put something in Terrance’s IV to kill him.” Meanwhile, Howard’s mother was seen performing CPR on him, with no medical personnel assisting.
“He has been fine and stable,” Allen said in the video. “The moment we got ready to get him out of here and transfer him, they interfered. As soon as we got the medical records to give over to the doctors they had somebody come in here and put something in his –“
Allen said the medical staff decided they wanted to let their son die and asked them to come and give life-saving measures, but they refused. He also said Howard was having bowel movements and decided not to make a chart of it.
“So, right now they are trying to let him die…they put something in his IV to kill him, said Allen. “Of course, we’re not medically inclined, and the people that we had here who was medically inclined they [doctors] waited until they left and then got in here and did something.”
Allen also alleged that the hospital wanted their son’s organs.
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Atrium Health Carolinas Medical Center calls Charlotte-Mecklenburg police on Terrance Howard’s family
In another video live-streamed by Allen, the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department showed up in the room and told them to leave, threatening to trespass them.
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Our prayers and thoughts are with the family and friends of Mr. Howard.
First my heart goes out to the family for their loss. But as a mother I can promise you if something like this was happening to my child I would not at all think about grabbing my phone to record or go live. I would be fighting for my child. The cop clearly says they Dr’s are trying to come in and help but they will not let them. They also are probably doing more damage then good as he is not in the proper position for cpr. If the Dr’s were just trying to steal his organs they would have jumped on taking his body away as the organs will die with no blood flow. The article even says he suffered life threatening brain injuries that it is very possible he succumbed to. They are refusing to allow hospital personal in the room. They are turning off equipment that could help keep him alive. It’s a very sad situation all around. But from the videos they are causing more harm then they are helping.
I’m not saying a DNR was signed by him or not but it’s possible it could have been signed prior to his accident when he went to the hospital or an appointment. Whenever I have tests or other procedures and done they ask if I want a DNR or other advance directives. I quickly say no. I tell them I’ve have convos with my family and they know my wishes.
In Pa if you have organ donor on your license you still have to get permission from family first. I’m not sure if it changed yet but the State was talking about changing this policy because it interferes with organ donation.
Reading all the comments makes me so sad . this family loss their son. This in itself is a very hard time for all of them . Right now this family needs all of our prayers . RIH YOUNG MAN
The fact of the matter is, there has been a tragic loss here! No matter the reason! All of these comments will never change that! If this was my child, ALL of these comments would tear me up! Would a, should a, could a…let the young man RIP!
What they are doing to a dead body is ignorant. He is clearly dead. Let the poor young boy’s soul pass on. Ignorant to the truth, that’s how’s these kinds of people are.
Your comment is so sick this is a family grieving but ignorant to the truth sounds like u just a raciest cause that’s how YOUR KIND OF PEOPLE ARE
Smh please , clearly not a fighter . Just want to lay down and die . 8 out of 10 guesses im most likely right . You one of them devils
They were preforming cpr on a dead body… he signed a dnr… now we are racist? Ughh gwt over yourself
where do it says that a DNR was signed????
the family clearly said he was FINE & STABLE until the family was getting ready to transfer him and he went into this condition…
if a so called DNR was signed, the paperwork would be presented to the family as proof as his next of kin…
DNR is a legal document that both patient and doctors sign if it presented that the patient have a terminal illness or serious medical condition…in his case, he was in a wreck and hit by a car and had brain trauma…most likely he was sedated when he came via ambulance so ain’t no way DNR was signed
these comments goes for sure that none of y’all have a heart…PARENTS are furious that hospital personel is not performing CPR nor helping bc they don’t want their son to die?!? y’all really said they ignorant of what they doing?!?
BE REALLLL
Agreed. This is exactly why myself and my children are not automatic organ donors.
well said, and I agree.
He may of had to have one signed since he played football and it’s a game that can severely injure you in a sec. Not saying one way or another because I wasn’t there but if he was even alert and coherent enough when he came in they would have asked him his wishes. He may have declined fast. I don’t know and like everyone else I’m purely speculating but there are so many things we don’t know and so many factors of things that could’ve happened that it is really not helping anything except causing more confusion. I really hope the truth comes out in the end but to many times there’s still so many questions. I can’t imagine how his family feels.
He played football for the University of Alabama but didn’t get any play time. So the insurance usually have them sign something like this in case he gets severely injured n he was an organ donor
He was not fine and stable..he had severe brain trauma. No doctor put anything In his IV to kill him. He had no brain activity. CPR was not going to help. They probably administered morphine or Ativan in IV for comfort. Bowel movement occur when the body is deceased. The family was not medically knowledgeable and in denial of their sons condition
Who signed a dnr ?
There was no DNR on any paperwork sweetheart. The things people say SMH…
You don’t have any info on this and do not work there. He had a DNR.
These kind of people?!! Now that’s ignorant
Every family is allowed to grieve in their own way. Judging their reaction to losing a child as ignorant is in fact ignorance!
What an a*s whole. You’re obviously racist. I pray that you find the lord Jesus and he saves your soul. Judge and you shall be judged in the same manner. This family is grieving.
Define “these kinds of people”.
What Jackass you are,Jackass
Is this your family member, i guess not. So your family isnt going to save you give you a second chance . You dnt want reviving in those last mins or your not educated enough to know you can be brought back from the dead within a few mins. So you would rather your family not even try to save you ok. Becareful with the words you speak its a reflection of your own self.
Have a child to die? How dare you. These parents are devastated and desperate. What if it was you?
It’s quite clear to read that there are some clear cut racists, callous and cold hearted people on here. They really think this could be all a conspiracy wherher in this partocular if its true are not, om reality it does happen in many hospitals, the sad thing they bark without using intelligence to do research into it because it’s beyond their comprehension and their cognitive dissonance is too far skewered. They re that dumb because they truly we’re living in a civilised world, what a freaking joke. Their sh..t will hit the fan and smack them in the face like a head on collision, when their unbelief becomes their own nightmare reality
This article was written in a manner that undermines the family. Why did medical personnel in the room not try to assist in the resuscitation of the young man? If it were your son, or if it was you, would you write what you just wrote? Shame on you.
Kid was brain dead.
Doctors declares kid brain dead
Kid has DNR.
Case closed.
Even if kid doesn’t have a DNR and doctor declares him brain dead. What do you expect them to do, keep him in the room forever??? You can keep the body going for years on a vent and with the correct meds keep the heart pumping. There is an entire building in Pineville NC full of people that are basically brain dead. We jokingly call it the “vegetable garden”. Their bodies will lay there for years hooked to machines until one or more of their organs fail and they die. They are not mentally aware. They are neither dead or alive. But their families refuse to let them go so their bodies lay their with tubes sticking out of them and machines keeping the meat moving. To take a line from the movie Pet Cemetery……..”SOMETIMES DEAD IS BETTER”
My condolences to the family. .
My brother was declared brain dead and they said he would be a vegetable if he lived. Well, my family did not take that and told them to keep him on life support until he goes on his own. Tell me why he woke up in 1 week and made a full recovery. He is normal right now. From living proof and wether people want to believe it or not, there are hospitals that want organs and will tell black people anything so they can agree to take your loved ones off life support so they can get the organs. Do research people. The if someone is brain dead why are they putting things in his IV. They still cannot say oh he is brain dead so we are not doing anything else to him. The people over him has to make that decision. These racist people always trying to defend somthing because they are apart of the problem. They know ot is true they just wether say stupid things to mock our situations.
That’s not *true* brain death. There is no coming back from brain death.
I’m glad he’s doing great but that is not the norm. There is no way of knowing what organs will work with people in need, & docs/nurses don’t give a shit, they’re just trying to help.
Why would a 19 year old be a DNR? 😳
Because he was brain dead.
I do feel horrible for this family that are obviously in agony. I’m very sorry they lost this amazing young man. As an ER nurse this situation makes me hate my job. Not because of the tragedy of loosing a young person, but the family acting this way. I have seen so many people pass. People of all ages. I have seen grieving and many ways. We always let the family do what they need. Bur respect for others must be maintained. Other families and patients are witness to this behavior. I understand you believe someone shady is happening. But truly from what I have been able to put together he had a very traumatic dead. The braid can stop working and the body will continue to function especially on a vent and pressor meds. And they well could have given him pain meds or medication for sedation. And please stop doing CPR he has a pulse and you are just breaking ribs. Some communities spread this distrust building a wall from knowledge and truth. They use to tell people the world is flat to keep then from running off in fear of falling off the earth. Educate your selves. Open your minde to people with the knowledge you need to understand. We in the medical field love to educate so you can understand. I personally work had to make sure everyone understands. It’s truly a lot! I hope they find peace. Death is a part of life it’s never convenient and is not age forgiving. Sounds like his life was happy and he was loved.
I hope you go back and read what you wrote because a lot of it doesn’t make sense lol but yeah it’s sad he lost his life I hope that you are more accurate in your Job when it comes to writing things down lol just saying
You sound stupid
WHAT A JOKE – the #3 Cause of Death in the U.S. is Medical Error!
I’ll reply tomorrow with the most recent studies but I believe the DRUG ADDICTION amongst hospital staff is nearly 30%.
What the last 4 years has taught me is that MD, DO, BSN, ANYONE in the medical is POORLY TRAINED!!!! There is not one doctor that could compete with our doctors of old, nurses either!
Reading all these comments reminds me of standing in a airport terminal listening to passengers explain to each other how jet aircraft work. While none of them are pilots or aircraft engineers. This is the largest gathering of ignorance and racism I have witnessed since the 1960s. The kid was brain dead. The doctor declared him dead. Case closed. The family over reacted and caused a scene. Happens all the time. This family just took it to the next level and the cops had to remove them. There is not a giant underground market for black and brown organs. The ignorance and victimology is strong with this crowd.
You are a lie and proba the one doing it. Do your research people. They steal organs.
Shut up because you’re obviously not as knowledgeable as you try to appear
Absolutely love it. So true. But I would say the boy was not dead cause the nurses in the room that were helping the family wouldn’t be risking their jobs if he was already gone, considering they were going against what the main head doctors were saying and doing
You’re idiotic. The old Dr. And Nurses had like 18 meds they had to figure out. Penicillin for everyone. When non medical professionals have opinions on education they have no clue about.
You are 100% correct!
Oh lord 🤦🏻♀️
Shut up plz doctors don’t have the final say GOD DOES! And if they wanted him to remain on a center wishes should have been honored PERIOD. I had doctors tell me my son would die wouldn’t live a normal prosperous life and he is now 15 defeating the odds because GOD said my son has purpose while doctors were ready to give up and label him as a retard
Is the hospital ‘For-Profit’? Please research investigations of how these hospitals are purposely reducing nursing staff and limiting doctor’s medical decisions in order to increase profit (NBC investigated HCA Healthcare). The Hospice team could aggressively coerce an uninformed family to place a critically ill patient in Hospice without giving them a chance to recover (non-terminal illness). When a patient dies in Hospice care, the death is not included in the hospital’s mortality stats which creates a false high quality rating. I have heard horror stories when the critically ill/injured patient has viable organs, and has made himself a donor (signed driver’s license), and is unmarried with no adult children and no POA. The parents and siblings have no legal say in their healthcare. The Organ Donor people aggressively enforce the patient’s decision to make himself a donor. Please research this yourself! NOTE: I totally support those who are in need of organs and Hospice is wonderful for those with a painful terminal illness (or tramatic injuries that are truly incompatible with life). However the shady practices of some Profit Driven Hospital corporations must be fully investigated.
Organ donation requires the staff to keep that person alive until they remove his organs. If the hospital wanted his organs they would do everything they could to keep him alive in order to keep his organs healthy. Thats not what was going on in this situation.
Bingo
Yes. Your comment was the smartest one I’ve read on here. I was losing all hope in humanity and finally someone said something that made sense. Thank you!
I truly felt this family’s pain watching this video. I can’t even imagine being in this scenario. However at one point I’m thinking because of the grief they are losing their minds
Ppl saying the hospital killed him are delusional. What world do you live in where you think they can do that and not get caught? Where is your common sense?
They aren’t stealing black and brown organs… it’s stupid inflammatory remarks like that that continue to fuel racism. It won’t go away because of small minds like yours. Until your mentality is gone racism won’t leave. Grow up.
And further, I’ve read the young man had a DNR. If so, they couldn’t legally do anything anyway.
If he didn’t have one then the parents should NOT have locked the doctors and nurses out of the room like they did.
Back down to earth people.
You just provide your opinion which is.lower than stupid and not worth reading. A DNR must be signed and approved by A next of kin or and at least doctor. The question is who did that. Crucial information is missing. If the family is unstable then where was their counseling? Something is fishy, autopsy and legal steps. Stay tuned.
I have a DNR signed by a notery and a lawyer. This has nothing to do with family members at all. It is respected and honored by medial staff as what the pt wanted.
I should have said to A legally authorized health care agent makes the decision if tbe patient is incapacitated. It’s not automatically a decision made by next of kin.
A DNR does not have to be approved by anyone. The patient makes that decision for themselves. And if they can’t make it for themselves the medical staff can sign it on their behalf. In some cases a family member may be allowed to consent to a DNR, but the attending physician can make that decision for their unconscious patient.
I have never heard of anyone other than patient or family making someone a DNR. A doctor can not do that on their own.
This from the North Carolina DEPT of Health.
§ 90‐21.17. Portable do not resuscitate order and Medical Order for Scope of Treatment.
(a) It is the intent of this section to recognize a patient’s desire and right to withhold
cardiopulmonary resuscitation and other life‐prolonging measures to avoid loss of dignity and
unnecessary pain and suffering through the use of a portable do not resuscitate (“DNR”) order
or a Medical Order for Scope of Treatment (MOST).
This section establishes an optional and nonexclusive procedure by which a patient or the
patient’s representative may exercise this right.
(b) A physician may issue a portable DNR order or MOST for a patient:
(1) With the consent of the patient;
(2) If the patient is a minor, with the consent of the patient’s parent or guardian;
or
(3) If the patient is not a minor but is incapable of making an informed decision
regarding consent for the order, with the consent of the patient’s
representative.
The physician shall document the basis for the DNR order or MOST in the patient’s
medical record. When the order is a MOST, the patient or the patient’s representative must sign
the form, provided, however, that if it is not practicable for the patient’s representative to sign
the original MOST form, the patient’s representative shall sign a copy of the completed form
and return it to the health care professional completing the form. The copy of the form with the
signature of the patient’s representative, whether in paper or electronic form, shall be placed in
the patient’s medical record. When the signature of the patient’s representative is on a separate
copy of the MOST form, the original MOST form must indicate in the appropriate signature
field that the signature is “on file”.
(c) The Department of Health and Human Services shall develop a portable DNR order
form and a MOST form. The official DNR form shall include fields for the name of the patient;
the name, address, and telephone number of the physician; the signature of the physician; and
other relevant information. At a minimum, the official MOST form shall include fields for: the
name of the patient; an advisory that a patient is not required to have a MOST; the name,
telephone number, and signature of the physician, physician assistant, or nurse practitioner
authorizing the order; the name and contact information of the health care professional who
prepared the form with the patient or the patient’s representative; information on who agreed
(i.e., the patient or the patient’s representative) to the options selected on the MOST form; a
range of options for cardiopulmonary resuscitation, medical interventions, antibiotics,
medically administered fluids and nutrition; patient or patient representative’s name, contact
information, and signature; effective date of the form and review dates; a prominent advisory
that directions in a MOST form may suspend, while those MOST directions are in effect, any
conflicting directions in a patient’s previously executed declaration of an advance directive for
a natural death (“living will”), health care power of attorney, or other legally authorized
instrument; and an advisory that the MOST may be revoked by the patient or the patient’s
representative. The official MOST form shall also include the following statement written in
boldface type directly above the signature line: “You are not required to sign this form to
receive treatment.” The form may be approved by reference to a standard form that meets the
requirements of this subsection. For purposes of this section, the “patient’s representative”
means an individual from the list of persons authorized to consent to the withholding of
life‐prolonging measures pursuant to G.S. 90‐322.
(d) No physician, emergency medical professional, hospice provider, or other health
care provider shall be subject to criminal prosecution, civil liability, or disciplinary action by
any professional licensing or certification agency for withholding cardiopulmonary
resuscitation or other life‐prolonging measures from a patient in good faith reliance on an
G.S. 90-21.17 Page 2
original DNR order or MOST form adopted pursuant to subsection (c) of this section, provided
that (i) there are no reasonable grounds for doubting the validity of the order or the identity of
the patient, and (ii) the provider does not have actual knowledge of the revocation of the
portable DNR order or MOST. No physician, emergency medical professional, hospice
provider, or other health care provider shall be subject to criminal prosecution, civil liability, or
disciplinary action by any professional licensing or certification agency for failure to follow a
DNR order or MOST form adopted pursuant to subsection (c) of this section if the provider had
no actual knowledge of the existence of the DNR order or MOST.
(e) A health care facility may develop policies and procedures that authorize the
facility’s provider to accept a portable DNR order or MOST as if it were an order of the
medical staff of that facility. This section does not prohibit a physician in a health care facility
from issuing a written order, other than a portable DNR order or MOST not to resuscitate a
patient in the event of cardiac or respiratory arrest, or to use, withhold, or withdraw additional
medical interventions as provided in the MOST, in accordance with acceptable medical
practice and the facility’s policies.
(f) Nothing in this section shall affect the validity of portable DNR order or MOST
forms in existence prior to the effective date of this section. (2001‐445, s. 1; 2007‐502, s. 14.)
Who signed his DNR making it legal if he came in debilitated both mentally and physically? His parents were his overseers.
Perhaps he made this decision prior to this accident. He very well could have. May make the decision not to live if they are in full medical care. It’s not a great quality of life. Sounds like he had some education about this in school.
As a Nurse Practitioner, I can’t see a healthy, 19 year old football player making himself a DNR! In this case, I think they coded him and couldn’t resuscitate him leading them to call the time of death. I think that the family was unable to accept his death and wanted them to continue CPR after he had expired which is inhumane, that’s why staff was being passive. Another question, why was the family allowed in the room if they were coding him?
@Carmalinda Early, This is the most logical comment posted on here. This makes total sense! Nevertheless, this is a very sad case. It is very difficult to deal with family when they have limited health literacy.
You all in these comments talking crazy. Biih you must work for that hospital.. that must be your white ahh in the background of the video not helping 😐
That’s his girl friend
What 19 year old signs or even thinks of a DNR??? You talk nonsense.
Power of Attorney/Next of kin can sign a DNR for someone else in cases where the patient isn’t able to make decisions for themselves (either because they aren’t conscious or aren’t mentally sound.) it’s not uncommon in ED or ICU settings.
A DNR does not have to be approved by anyone. The patient makes that decision for themselves. And if they can’t make it for themselves the medical staff can sign it on their behalf. In some cases a family member may be allowed to consent to a DNR, but the attending physician can make that decision for their unconscious patient.
A legally authorized health care agent makes the decision if tbe patient is unconscious. This is someone that is called out in a living will. Next of kin dont automatically get to make the decision.
Said like a true racist.
You are the one with a small delusional mind. There are some people in the hospitals that cause harm and even death everyday. And if you looked at the video you would have known a DNR was not in place. It’s not racism that you see, it’s parents trying their hardest to save their child’s life. You need to educate yourself and learn that all things are not about race. I could say that the hospital was being racist because they never helped, instead because I wasn’t there nor did I see the beginning of the video I think it’s a shame that the hospital allowed that child to just lay on that bed without helping him and watched the parents work on that child but instead called the police and had them removed. The hospital and police took something away from them that they will never get back.
I watched the videos. I don’t recall hearing any of them say anything about a DNR.
Amen. I agree.
It happens all the time. Dr’s are very rarely found to be at fault. We live in a world where anything is possible at the hands of another human. I know it’s hard to imagine but yes murder in hospitals do happen.
This is the most asinine comment I have ever read.
There are hospitals who get Kickbacks as well as the doctors who put stuff in these patients IVs to finish them off in order to be a organ donor. This happens a way a lot more than what you think in a whole lot of hospitals I have several family members that are medical field workers and they say this happens a lot
That’s BS. The hospitals aren’t even the ones who procure the organs. Each state has a separate organ procurement agency who asks the family if they want to donate, or respects the wishes if the person has marked on their drivers license. And if they are harvesting organs they will keep the patient alive on a ventilator and medicines to sustain circulation until the agency arrives to come get the organs. They can’t use organs that have had no circulation to them. So if they wanted organs they would have tried hard not to let this kid die. I’ve read this kid was declared brain dead so there was no hope of recovery. Very sad and i understand the family having a hard time accepting that when they see a heart beat. But that heart beat was likely only due to multiple medicines making it keep pumping. Signed- a 27 year ER nurse who has worked in 5 different states and 8 hospitals.
And this is exactly why hospitals don’t run their own organ procurement programs, and the medical staff isn’t supposed to even approach families about donation. Because it could be seen as conflict of interest. We let the state agency ask the family and handle everything. The only thing we do is keep them alive until we know if the family wants to donate or not, and provide an OR for the agency to harvest if the answer is yes. Then the agency sends the organs anywhere in the country that it is needed, to whomever is next on the transplant list. It’s usually nowhere near where the patient died and the hospital staff has zero influence on the decisions that are made, nor any gain or benefit.
Organ donation requires the staff to keep that person alive until they remove his organs. If the hospital wanted his organs they would do everything they could to keep him alive in order to keep his organs healthy. Thats not what was going on in this situation.
Oh stop.
You can’t “kill” a patient and still expect their organs to be used. And a dr cannot make a pt DNR. If a pt is unable to make the decision a wife/husband or parent of not married makes that decision WITH the dr. And brain dead means extensive testing was done to declare that. They just don’t say it because they want to. I do agree a dr or at least a case worked should have been in with the parents to assist them through letting their son pass with dignity. This situation is a mess but has nothing to do with racism or hatred. Just an inconsolable family.
To transplant an organ, the donor must have some form of life to keep the organ that’s donated alive. A heart is NO GOOD if the heart isn’t pumping. The kidney are NO GOOD if the kidney isn’t functioning. So why would the hospital steal or kill this young man if he was an organ donor??? Make it make sense.
I’m just gonna try to use a little of my common sense and then a little compassion. My only common sense question would be, why would a 19 year old have a DNR? On another note even if the hospital knew that there was no way they could help him why wouldn’t they compassionately have a social worker, nurse doctor and any other available hospital staff in that room to help them through this. No one wants to see there loved ones die so there are many things other than CALLING THE POLICE they could have done in this situation to help this family find peace in what was happening. This was very sad to watch very sad
[…] father believes the hospital purposely let his son died to take his organs. Unfortunately, Howard died despite the family’s efforts to perform live-saving […]
No one knows the entire story. There is much more to this. I feel awful for this family! Do you really think a hospital would do nothing and put themselves at risk of that type of liability though? If they really wanted his organs as the family says, they would have done everything to keep him alive so they were viable!
The entire story is what being told. Hospital does this all the time.
EXACTLY! I’ve literally been telling people the same thing! Everytime I see someone saying there’s more to the story! No there is not this is something that is happening all over the world! And many hospitals get away with it all of the time and there have been few instances where people have proof and I literally just had a video pop up on my Facebook yesterday of a young woman whom was on life support and the hospital was trying to steal her organs and the family took the hospital to court and won got to keep them and keep their daughter on life support!
Organ donation requires the staff to keep that person alive until they remove his organs. If the hospital wanted his organs they would do everything they could to keep him alive in order to keep his organs healthy. Thats not what was going on in this situation.
Yes they do things like this everyday. The young man is still alive in Spirit. Prayers to the family and friends.
Yes, hospitals do kill especially us black and brown people all the time. A hospital killed my uncle during COVID-19. One day he was talking and pleading for his life not to be put under and they did and refused nutrients and life-saving measures. His body held on for 7 days and but succomb. We fought all the way up to the chief of staff to no avail.
Yes, hospitals do kill especially us black and brown people all the time. A hospital killed my uncle during COVID-19. One day he was talking and pleading for his life not to be put under and they did and refused nutrients and life-saving measures. His body held on for 7 days and but succomb. We fought all the way up to the chief of staff to no avail. Besides, did you guys see the monitor, he WAS not dead. I was once intubated and when I started breathing on my own, I felt like I was suffocating because my breaths were going against the flow of the machine. So when the parents said he was breathing on his own after they received a letter saying to perform life-saving measures with the Carolina’s statue, why did they not offer medical assistance? if the family wanted their son transferred, why did they inject something in his IV so he would die? Isn’t it crazy, they called for the MBPD but would not come because it is a private hospital but when they hospital calls on the parents who are trying desperately to save their son, they are made to leave so they can finish him off and guess what…. They Did! May God deal with them for their deeds.
Brain dead or not the family has the right to keep him on a ventilator or any life extreme measures until further notice. . They had no right to refuse care when this young man’s family was not ready. All of the nurses that comment other bs should be ashamed to say other wise. They had no sympathy or respect for this family. May God bring them peace on this absolutely brutal time.
That same hospital already had a nurse killing ppl. His name is Johnathan Hayes and I believe he’s still on trial.
You’re a liar. He did not work at that hospital, he worked at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center. In Winston-Salem. This is in Charlotte. You don’t get to make stuff up.
Yes yes he is.. Holy crap I just watched about that
He was a DNR. Not sure who made him a DNR, but the staff cannot LEGALLY intervene on a DNR.
If he came in as a John Doe without id how did he become dnr? That makes no sense
Good lord use your brain
They actually legally do not have the right to keep him alive if he was pronounced brain dead. He is legally considered deceased if brain death has happened.
That’s a lie, it’s always up to the family so yes they have to by law.
not true ww keep my father alive a few days after he was declared brain dead because I was not ready it was not up to the hospital it was up to me and my money
What are you talking about? Do you know how many brain dead people are still hooked up to machines for YEARS? Stop it
If the person is brain dead, with fixed pupils and no gag, two doctors one being a neurologist can declare you and remove a person from life-support. In Georgia, it’s a state law that they can do that. I’ve seen it happen multiple times.
So much goes into critical care that we don’t see. We don’t know the full story and if they were going to harvest his organs, they would keep him alive so that oxygen can continue to flow to the organs.
By the time we get to The place which we are watching, they have had multiple conversations, multiple consultations, and even Chaplain services have been called in to talk about spiritual support and grief loss. What we see is just a snippet Folks who have lost their son to a tragic accident and now dealing with the overwhelming loss of a child And all of their expectations of this child’s life.
Pray for them And all of those who cared for him along the way. The team grieves also.
Hotdog! The actual right answer here.
I was trying to figure out how to articulate something similar.
I’ve seen this happen before and it was only in times where it was necessary.
Every time it was very ethical and necessary. Every time it was a merciful thing for the patient. Sorry to the family but it’s their own ignorance, emotionalism, and distrust of the system that got them to this point.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/08/30/texas-life-support-notice-period/#:~:text=In%20Texas%2C%20hospitals%20can%20withdraw,current%20care%20as%20%E2%80%9Cfutile.%E2%80%9D
There’s a law that drs can withdraw care if the continuation of care wasn’t futile
They’re not in Texas though. They’re in NC…
True
Only for a certain amount of x..
His accident was on the 22nd. He was brain dead, on a ventilator and died on the 28th or 29th.
Exactly!!!!! There are some people that keep saying because he’s brain dead that they can’t do cpr and Resuscitate him which is total bullshit they can and the family says in the video that medical Personell turned off his life support!
Not if their son had a DNR or was an organ donor. He was 19. Moved away from home
I feel really bad for this family. I haven’t found any places that state he was brain dead either, only brain injury. While brain death in NC can be determined by physicians after appropriate testing AND there are laws where the physicians can remove life saving measures without family permission, there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If this child, and that is what he is, someone’s child, was determined to be brain dead and the family was not ready to accept it, they need to be given time to grieve and come to grips with the situation. It had only been 3 days since his accident and he is so young. If the family was planning to transfer him to his home state and had raised the funds to do so, the hospital should have allowed that instead of what happened here. And while some people will see this as a family just trying to build a case against this huge hospital system so that they can sue, nobody knows how they would react if put in this situation until they are.
As a critical care nurse for many years, I have seen so many people without medical knowledge or family members with medical knowledge have no idea what is actually happening to them when they are trying to navigate through the world of medicine. It’s really sad to see their confusion when talking to doctors and agreeing to whatever the doctor says as if they understand because they are either ashamed or afraid to say they don’t. Everybody needs an advocate and this family needed one. At the very least, Palliative care should have spoken to them before it came to removing life support.
Thank you for this Susan! I totally agree with u!
Just because the hospital has not released this patient’s medical records to the public doesn’t mean they didn’t perform their due diligence including involving palliative care and performing appropriate brain death testing. It’s hard to believe you’re or were a critical care nurse with this kind of reasoning.
Patient was a do not resuscitate.
The patient can’t consent as he was a minor at the time. He was a high athletic football player he would not have put that on his record. Furthermore how can he request that if he came in there with a “brain injury.” He was 17 at the time moving to college. So how could he get admitted and write that on his chart?? And the parents did not consent, a medical staff put that on there without their knowledge if you read the whole story.
Howard was a 2022 graduate of Ridge Point High School in Missouri City where he was described as a “shining star and dedicated athlete.” He played as a walk-on at the University of Alabama before transferring to North Carolina Central University where he received a full-ride scholarship.
RIP Terrance
The parents said that there was no DNR on his file and if there was then the mother would have been notified as he was underage and would have been the POA right? All of this to me sounds 100% like this hospital did exactly what the family is claiming they did!!!!! I hope this family gets the justice they deserve!
The article stated he’s 19. He wasn’t quite, 3 or 4 days ago when he came in to the hospital after a traumatic accident, so if he as a legal adult of 18 signed a DNR those are the wishes that need to be followed. I feel terrible for the family, but I can almost guarantee no one “put something in his IV to kill him”, so that he wouldn’t be transferred. I understand some people have a deep distrust of medical professionals but I don’t know any nurses or doctors that aren’t looking to do their best for their patients. Not to mention, the pic/video of the parent(s) doing their version of CPR wasn’t done at all correctly, multiple things were wrong and nothing they did was going do in their grief was going to bring their child back. Human bodies can only withstand so much trauma before they can no longer function.
Julia, he was 19 and in college.
Even if he was a DNR the parents have the right to rescind that at any time.
Only a legally appointed healthcare agent can change a DNR you can’t just do that just because you’re a parent .
Absolutely not! He was a legal adult. They can’t change his wishes.
Not necessarily. Depends on who the DNR came from, if it was the patient or the power of attorney then nothing you say or do as a family member supercedes that (unless you’re the patient or the power of attorney)
I love how people make up laws to fit their opinion.
This Right Here ☝️👏. Even if a DNR existed, that was signed by his next of kin (his parents), they can change their mind regarding resuscitation status at any time. If next of kin are at the bedside when a patient is actively dieing, and they verbalize to hospital staff that now they want all life-saving efforts performed…then staff need to perform them. Cannot imagine this healthy, young man, at the age of 18 or 19, thought about signing legal documents in the chance of his accidentall death. Most kids, who are healthy and in the prime of life, think that nothing could or will ever happen to them.
we believe Susan T you seem to be a bit of a jerk 🙂↕️
Your choosing to be blind! This video clearly shows Medical personel not doing a damn thing to help!
Wow. So many things wrong with this paragraph. Each state regulates how to deal with brain death but for the most part, if a patient is confirmed brain dead, all life supporting measures are cut off. Don’t think this patient had DNR as no one knew who he was so I’m going to assume he was confirmed brain dead by the neurologist before this video started.
I agree with some of your comment but as a critical care nurse, you should know that funds aren’t the only thing you need to transfer a patient. You need a patient that’s stable enough for transport and you need an accepting physician at a hospital with an available bed. Having worked ICU in level I trauma center, I know it would be very difficult to find an accepting physician for transfer unless the patients family has personal connections. A hospital is not likely to accept this patient for transfer. I feel really bad for this family but do not believe their accusations. There isn’t a nurse with a license that is going to willingly participate in what they are accusing.
Please don’t say, “There isn’t a nurse with a license that is going to willingly participate in what they are accusing.”
In this climate (and in America since its inception), there has ALWAYS been a willing participant.
Terri, but the whole entire floor of nurses and Dr’s? They were ALL willing to loose there licenses? And for what? Why would they ALL want to let this guy die?
They wouldn’t. Obviously we see and know very little about whst actually took place.
The patient was not only a DNR, but also legally declared brain dead. No other hospital is going to accept a brain dead patient for transfer. And we know legally they cannot intervene on a DNR. Not sure who made him a DNR, but I knew he was as soon as I saw they weren’t intervening.
HE WAS NOT A DNR! Stop talking smack when you know absolutely nothing about this I just found the fathers page and there was absolutely no DNR signed! By the minor or by his parents!
I agree. If it was only three days, I think that they could have waited longer. I also agree, pall care and chaplaincy needed to be involved.
Thank you!
Not true you have nurses everyday that’s not in it for the right reasons, so I really don’t believe you on that.and as for the acceptance our level one oshner would have taken this case just because you said we wouldn’t 😘
I agree 100%.
As a mom who had to decide when it was the right time to remove my daughter from the ventilator, this family should have been able to make the same decision.
Susan, you are absolutely right. Couldn’t have said what we all (fellow seasoned nurses) are thinking any better. This whole situation makes me sick to my stomach. That poor family. Praying that they are able to find some peace and comfort during these awful circumstances.
Thank you Suu for sharing this msge
Please repeat this again for all the wanna be doctors n nurses putting in they 7cents…
*their
You obviously don’t work in the inner city.
There is no right way to approach something like this with these people.
Like shit, I don’t want to code a patient every hour just because family members think that we’re trying to get his organs.
Hopefully they learn from the lawsuit that they were wrong, but they probably will just blame the lawyers.
John Hefty, please find a job somewhere else. No one in healthcare should be referring to patients and their families as “these people”. There are plenty of hospitals outside of “inner city” areas that would love to have you.
I definitely agree with your experienced view Susan T
They wanted to transfer him to another hospital to get a second opinion. When the initial diagnosis is brain death a second opinion is required to establish brain death as the final diagnosis. That second opinion came from another doctor at that same level one trauma facility he was at in NC.
They didn’t intervene to attempt CPR or the use of a defibrillator because they determined that he was legally dead whether legitimately or not.
It’s completely understandable that this is not what the family wanted to hear. I lost my Fiance when I was 22 years old. She was just 20 at the time. That was over 20 years ago and it still has a daily impact on my life. The marriage that never happened, the children that were never born. The life we planned to spend together that will never be.
You would hope the doctors on staff would have tried to prepare the family for T4’s possible death, but it is understandable that the family did not want to believe it. The first reaction you have when given such horrific news is denial. The pain is simply unbearable.
Their desire to transfer him to another facility for a second opinion was their only conceivable way forward to keep him alive. In that moment there is literally nothing you aren’t willing to consider to save the life of your child. Unfortunately it’s unlikely that any level one trauma center in Houston would have agreed to take him after receiving his medical records from the trauma center in NC. There is no current treatment for a total loss of brain activity
Unfortunately wonderful people die at ages far too young when they still have so much left to give to the world.
The Howard family may have a lawsuit to seek financial recovery for wrongful death. It would be against the individual who hit him with their vehicle and their insurance company.
My deepest sympathies to the family and loved ones of Mr. Howard. I hope that over time you will be able to make peace with what has happened. It will be a long and hard journey. This is not something you will ever ‘get over’. His loss will remain with you for the rest of your life. Hopefully your pain isn’t compounded by medical malpractice. Even the perception of impropriety can greatly exacerbate the grief you are going to feel in the months, years and even decades ahead. Over time the happiest memories of him will come to the forefront and the unhappy ones will fade away. Almost as if they never existed.
If it was the fault of the hospital toxicology tests will show you what he was injected with prior to his death and discovery via your attorney will provide you with everything you need to prevail in court.
I believe that is unlikely, but if you can find an attorney willing to take the case on contingency you have nothing to lose. If you do have to pay an attorney out of pocket the costs should be minimal and only to assist you in obtaining the toxicology reports needed to see if you can proceed further with the lawsuit via discovery.
Very Well said
Very well said. Prayers for comfort and peace for the family.
This a very kind and thoughtful response. I’m very sorry for your loss.
Okay, you wrote a book about your experience and what you believe and feel. However, feelings are not facts. Firstly, condolences to you and I hope that your heart heals from the loss you are still suffering from. But you and no one else can choose who lives or dies. Faith is a powerful thing. And every case is different.
Case in point; my sister has thyroid disease and in 2019 she had a storm so bad she coded. She was not breathing for 30 minutes. The doctors in Las Vegas declared her dead. Meanwhile, unbeknownst to her family in Alabama and Georgia we had no idea of any of this. Back in Vegas, all of a sudden she started breathing again after 30 minutes. The staff stabilizes her and starts the process of searching for her next of kin. A week later they get in contact with me by email. I immediately contact my mom and we call the hospital and they update us that they believe she is brain dead and it she ever wakes up she’ll be a vegetable for the rest of her life. We were devastated.
After the phone call my mom and I started trying to organize a trip for her to head to Vegas.
By the time I made it home I went in my closet and closed the door and started praying for my sister to recover speedily and quickly. For 3 months it seemed like the doctors were right. They started asking my mom to get final arrangements in order as well as pull the plug on her daughter. But I kept telling my mom don’t do it. A week later my sister started responding with the movements of her fingers to commands. 3 weeks later she woke up.
In short, it has been 5 years since this happened and my sister can’t walk… yet. but is now able to talk, sit up, eat, and remember stuff. So, don’t discount faith. The prayers of the righteous avails much.
Is completely appropriate to believe in miracles. There was a miracle once when Moses received 10 commandments from Mount Sinai or Jesus healed a blind man. But unfortunately, miracles only happen every so often. Maybe once every few 1000 years. A true miracle that is. The question is suffering worth waiting for a miracle. But to apply the logic of 1 miracle to another human being that got hit by a car and ended up brain-dead is unfortunately only likely to bring suffering to the family that is already grieving.
You’re the only here who has made a lot of sense!!! Some people here comment without the full knowledge of what really happened or could have despite claiming they are “nurses”. Such a shame
Your comment is so needed and empathetic (Truth in Love).
I agree. Very well said. My heart aches for this beautiful boy. The family needs someone to focus all of their grief, pain, anger and loss on. Unfortunately, far too often, it’s the Dr’s and nurses. I pray they find peace. I hope he saved lives after his death. I just can’t imagine the pain they’re feeling.
you have the most Sincere and heart warming, comment out of everybody. ‘s God bless you.
Nice response.
I need more information and who is the woman rubbing his legs? Also you don’t perform CPR on someone sitting up.
Obviously they would have no idea that he would need to be flat for CPR.
She was with the family. Maybe the young man’s friend of girlfriend. The white who is there also seems to be with the family.
In the room there is the father, mother, sister who arrives later, and the two friends.
She was with the family. Maybe the young man’s friend or girlfriend. In the room there is the father, mother, sister who arrives later, and the two friends.
Did he eventually pass?
So very sad.
Many of you have not done CPR on someone before. Just a quick observation. Brain activity and CPR results in involuntary movements..unless there’s no brain activity. The ENTIRE time the family was doing CPR, that child did not move. I can only guess the hospital wasn’t assisting because they told the family there was no brain activity and the family went into denial. Clearly there was no panic from dad, as he sat there recording a video while his wife is in the background singing and doing CPR. They couldn’t accept it.
No brain activity or not if no DNR signed they have to do it all and obviously he had brain activity if he was up and having bowel movements. If there’s no DNR signed they are legally required to do EVERYTHING and put him on life support.
If the patient is brain dead they are legally considered dead. No DNR necessary, as the second they are pronounced brain dead that’s the “time of death.”Other organs can function like kidneys and bowels for up to a week after brain death. Generally young brain dead individuals are the best option for organ donation, and those organs could save MANY lives. No medical institution would let a patient die on purpose, not only is it immoral, but financially irresponsible because the family would sue to high heaven. It’s difficult to accept brain death, especially if the patient is have clonic jerks (which have been witnessed in bread death individuals according to several research articles). Movements make people think “life,” but unfortunately it’s not the case. I feel so bad for this family. My thoughts and prayers are with them. I cannot imagine losing my child.
Who told you they didn’t?
umm you don’t have to have brain activity for bowel movements
Let me tell you something This family is telling the truth about this hospital. I moved to Charlotte in 2008 and was told by other black people not to ever go to that hospital because I would not come out alive. There are known to let blacks die. Now after seeing this, I have to believe they are the cause of the deaths. Murdering blacks for their organs are on a rise. It’s been all over social media and in the news!!! We are the most hated nation of people and yet the white man knows how powerful out bodies are and they are in the business of stealing another part of us. The Bibles says the white man is the DEVIL.
Are you braindead?
You are promoting hate. I don’t know what Bible you think you’ve read but my Bible doesn’t spread hate. Stop this. Pray for your own self. This is a tragedy and you are using it as a platform to spread hate. You are not a good human being.
If they were harvesting his organs, they wouldn’t have let him die. The only way people can donate their organs when brain dead is if kept alive with a ventilator and medications to keep his heart beating and blood pressure regulated. They don’t discontinue life saving measures until they remove the organs in the OR. This video shows family denied organ donation, it seems like he had coded once considering the cart in the room, and after so many codes, there’s only so much healthcare professionals can do.
There are hospitals all over this country that let black people dies. They have a reputation for not letting black people out alive.
Nobody wants your organs.
C.T. Organ donation requires the staff to keep that person alive until they remove his organs. If the hospital wanted his organs they would do everything they could to keep him alive in order to keep his organs healthy. Thats not what was going on in this situation.
Exactly my thoughts
If you are brain dead you are considered dead they take you off of the ventilator because they did the test they had to do. In that case they do not resuscitate. The law is they will take you off the ventilator and let you go into cardiac arrest. If something nefarious happened I hope the family finds out but I don’t think that was the case. They were in shock and if they are trying to donate your organs you have to stay on a vent or they start deteriorating. Prayers for the family.
Where did they say brain dead? They said brain trauma which is not the same thing.
They didn’t say brain dead. But anyone experienced in ICU would know the reality of this situation isn’t neglect, and it’s denial of brain death.
If they don’t have permission to take him off the vent which I don’t see one anywhere, if he doesn’t breathe on his own, they get hooked right back up, they do not just let a person stay off until they are dead unless something was signed by the family, obviously that isn’t the case. I will say there is a lot of this story missing.
Hahah absolutely.
If there was any hope medical staff would be doing CPR. I could see this family being abusive to staff and I would call in if I had that assignment.
Thank you
Did you want the to release that information to you?🤔
All 50 states have adopted the Uniform Determination of Death Act (UDDA) of 1980, which defines brain death as the irreversible cessation of all brain activity, including the brain stem. However, there are some differences in state laws regarding brain death, including:
Religious or moral objections
California, Illinois, New Jersey, and New York require clinicians to accommodate these objections, and New Jersey law exempts people with religious objections from being declared brain dead.
To be honest they have declared people brain dead before and there families fault to keep then on the machine you can be in a coma and the can declare you brain dead and it not be the case
This is so dumb. This family needs to accept the fact their son died. Had a serious injury to his BRAIN. Was never going to come back. It’s horrible but it’s the truth. These conspiracy theories are ridiculous
It does not matter. It is up to the family. The hospital cannot refuse to do CPR unless the patient had DDNR signed and on file beforehand. I would NEVER refuse to do CPR on a patient without a DDNR order. NEVER. No matter what the patient’s medical status.
Melissa luv that is not true with a brain death.
Yes it is Vanessa, they have to have permission to take him off the vent and look at the videos there’s no vent. Nowhere does it say he was ever on one or brain dead. I’ve read all the reports on this accident that have come out. It stated he had a brain injury . Well, so do I and I’m alive. Many people live with traumatic brain injuries. I have decades of experience as a trauma Nurse along with a few years of ICU. Without a DNR signed, it’s the law that they must preform “ all lifesaving measures”.
Please stop spewing that you’re a trauma and icu nurse when you clearly don’t have the experience to back it up. This article isn’t complete, there is other info available that stated he was declared brain dead, meaning there is a time of death therefore no DNR necessary…. he isn’t alive (even though you may see a heart rate or chest rise due to the vent). This is a legal declaration of death. Also, if ethics is involved and it’s deemed necessary, yes… the doctor can declare a DNR if nothing else can be done. And finally, if they wanted to ‘steal his organs’ he wouldn’t have been taken off the vent…. they organ procurement organization needs them viable through use of the vent and pressors.
You’re spreading misinformation, stop it. -Signed a 10- year ICU Nurse (L1trauma, Neuro, MICU, CICU)
Venessa, they have to have permission to take him off the vent and look at the videos there’s no vent. Nowhere does it say he was ever on one or brain dead. I’ve read all the reports on this accident that have come out. It stated he had a brain injury . Well, so do I and I’m alive. Many people live with traumatic brain injuries. I have decades of experience as a trauma Nurse along with a few years of ICU. Without a DNR signed, it’s the law that they must preform “ all lifesaving measures”. Also, I love the way your. Also, I love the way your is spelled lol
You mean like “preform”? 😉
He’s literally intubated. The vent is turned off. I’m sure the family agreed to withdraw care and had him under comfort measures considering there’s a snack cart in the room which a lot of hospitals do that to support the family as their loved one is passing. However once the patient started passing they were in denial
I was a trauma Nurse and this statement is 1000% correct
Yesss and it does say brain trauma it doesn’t say he was brain dead and they must resuscitate. They cannot refuse. This is sad. I’m a nurse now and I see this all the time I’ve left a few jobs due to neglectful situations. Sometimes healthcare is not just the science, these are people and some things really do look like what you think. It looks like a money scam. It’s big business medical just my opinion. And experience speaking.
Please educate yourself! CPR/ACLS sometimes doesn’t bring someone back to life. Once declared dead and time resuscitated efforts terminated, a patient is declared dead and cannot be brought back to life!! Who told you they didn’t do all that? Just because the hospital has not released this patient’s information to the public doesn’t mean proper policy and procedures were not followed. Stop the ignorance
Their son was totally fine before his parents went on facebook live.. the parents stated that their son was well aware of his surroundings and was holding their hands and he was also crying, HE WAS ALIVE. When the parents left the hospital and returned they came into this! The sister stated that the doctors were putting something in his IV. The hospital did this to get their child organs! HE WAS NEVER DEAD
With no vent to keep his organs functional, at best they would only be able to use tissue and maybe corneas.
It’s a very bizarre case for sure. But I’m doubtful that they were trying to steal his organs since he isn’t even on a vent.
Especially not now that everything is out in the open. They can’t use c*** That’s probably why they didn’t come back in that room as they panicked. But I guess in due time the truth will come out. I can’t see a hospital doing this, but then, at the same time the way the world is turning right now. I don’t know what to believe. I just pray for the family. I pray for the loss of their son. What there was the hospital’s fault or the person that hit him’s fault.
Such ignorance!!
Oh my lord. You really are stupid arent you. Nobody killed him for his organs. You nappy head retards shouldn’t be online
Wow
Ashlyn.
He. Was. Brain. Dead.
No one killed him except for the person driving the vehicle that hit him.
Beginning to see that some humans really are related to monkeys
Yep, and you are one of them for this comment.🤦🏾♀️
You are a coward. Commenting as a John Doe. wait till something happens to your children or family members. I hey I bet you won’t accept it. Better yet come say it to our face you coward!!!!
Go back to the gorilla cage at the zoo. You obviously don’t have the capacity to understand that he was brain dead. The hospital didn’t kill him. You all are retards saying that because you were too stupid to accept the truth.
Your go fund me has been reported
lynn When your karma receives you, it is going to be beautiful.
The “AllMighty” that they are praying to made a decision. In 1992 I didn’t give up, and my son did not survive. I felt the doctors and staff gave up on him, and He passed away. I feel their pain. This is in their “AllMighty’s” plan.
One word…MORPHINE
EXACTLY!
they administered morphine which ultimately lowered his hear rate
You saw them do it? Don’t comment on what you don’t know
If you’re taking someone off the ventilator you give morphine and usually Ativan to help with air hunger.
So if they didn’t give morphine it would actually be worse.
Yes that’s right it kills you and you can put it through the iv
It’s such a shame how ignorant the public is on medical matters oh my God prople just stay off instead of dumb comments
You don’t work in the ICU do you?
Read the story again. The patient was fine and stable until they put something in his IV, so they tried to save him, not having a clue what was administered in the IV. Hateful comments knowing this family lost a loved one that anyone of us can lose as well. Prayers for the family
I feel bad for this family because it’s clear they are in denial. It is more likely this patient is brain dead considering the massive head trauma he sustained. Brain death takes time and several confirming tests to determine, which I’m assuming they did. In a brain dead patient, they cannot breathe on their own which is why they are on a ventilator to help provide oxygen to the rest of the organs. The heart still beats as normal in brain death, which is why CPR is not needed. Once brain death is confirmed by diagnostics and two qualified physicians, the patient is considered dead without any chance of any recovery. This is a lengthy process. But it is true when the body starts to shut down despite ventilator support, time is of the essence if there is a chance his unharmed healthy organs can save someone else’s child. This is sad this family seems to be spreading a lot of misinformation due to their grieving hearts. They should have had a support team with them along the way educating them so this dramatic reaction would not have happened. Also you can’t transfer a “dead” patient to another hospital for a second opinion. Brain dead is dead. Brain dead patients still move sometimes and flinch. Those are spontaneous reflexes from nerves in the body. They can be disturbing to family because they give the illusion their loved one is still alive but they are not. I hate this for him and for them honestly.
at what point did the drs or parents say he was brain dead?
They mention organ donation in the video. This is a choice left up to families after brain death has been determined officially. They may have brought it up to them before it was determined to prepare them and help them make a decision if they suspect a patient is moving towards complete brain death. The swelling on the brain and the repeat scans of the brain can identify that brain death is likely occurring over the course of days.
What a dumb family, all of them are just plain retarded
Pastycracker
Let it be your child or family member. You’re the retarded on for making such an ignorant statement!!It’s always one idiot in the bunch!
I Agree
#NuffSaid
I pray this happens to the person you love
Like what ???? I pray this is addressed to the Mona Lady that made the dumb comment
I hope this never happens to you or a family member especially a child of yours. You the one dumb as hell for even posting this comment
Dnt say that till you been thru what they are experiencing with a CHILD!!
You are not with them so you don’t know what all has went on from before they went live. Stop being so judgemental.
You’re the dumb one that’s my big cousin and he never disrespected anyone and you are just wrong and I hope you get cursed for that.
I been trying to reach out I went through it and was able to get my baby home
You Dumb!
Yes that’s right it kills you and you can put it through the iv. Now that’s not the way you talk got a person’s family
You’ll find out just how quick the Lord works. The Devil doesn’t win.
How ridiculous you sound, perhaps if it was someone close to you you’d be less judgemental.
It is not your son. Everyone is different because the GOD I KNOW HAS THE LAST SAY SO!!!
You evil heartless bastard!! How dare you talk about this family who is fighting for their son’s life!!
That’s a really hateful thing to say about people you don’t know. Be thankful you are not in a devastating situation like they are.
I second this. I’ve dealt with families just like this and they are always ignorant and think they know best.
Wow, John. Every single comment you are leaving proved that YOU are the exact healthcare provider that Black families fear. The irony is breathtaking. For the love of God, go find a place to work with a predominantly white population. It will be better for you and much better for the patients and families.
Lawsuit it’s not there decision it’s the parents and them teeesspass them is so sad please get a attorney
It is in some situations the drs decision.
You’re talking like someone who has never coded a patient with no potential future.
This is so sad my Daughter go the college with him and she one of the football trainer’s..This is so sad they did this to this young man…Praying for his whole family..
Such a sad situation that the family couldn’t accept there was nothing that could be done after such a horrible accident to a great kid. I hate to think the family is only in it for the money on their gofundme. I certainly wouldn’t donate until I know the full story.
STOP!!!!!!! They clearly said he was having bowel movements, moving, and able to be moved to another hospital. The hospital is foul and we ALL know about organ harvesting and selling blacks organs on the black market!!!
Exactly those doctors were criminals
What happened to the oaths they made to save lives
They are definitely criminals. Who allows a family to endure this type trauma alone with their dying child. What real doctor or nurse would be outside the door while you’re doing CPR. Where is hospital staff, even if only a hospital chaplain….
I’ve seen hospitals act this way before out of personal vengeance.
It’s possible to be a nurse or doctor…and be evil at the same time. Most of them are.
They know people are in the hospital as a last resort and this is how they act.
But they fail to realize, God has the VERY LAST WORD!
Correction, the white market.
As a nurse you can have bowel movements and slight head movements and still be brain dead. Unless you are a medical professional you don’t know what it’s like trying to explain these things to family members that aren’t medically inclined.
Ma’am, you are not educated on or experienced with brain death. Please refrain.
Brain dead people have bowel movements. Sometimes it’s literally dead bowel sloughing off along with whatever else is left in the gut. We also don’t put things in peoples’ IVs to kill them. That’s not a thing.
Hahaha Google brain stem reflexes.
Low education level mixed with overconfidence right here.
I’m glad someone else said this because as sad as this is the family is mistaken. I have a background in healthcare & had two brothers declared brain dead & this story seemed odd so I looked into it.
When a person is declared as such they are considered legally dead. Therefore, CPR can be refused. Also, they claim the hospital just want his organs but the longer a brain dead person lingers their organs deteriorate which explains the organ donation urgency. They claim he had been fine until given an injection except brain dead individuals condition worsens over time. Meaning, it was inevitable not the result of an injection. They accused them of turning off his ventilator but one test to determine if an individual is brain dead is to turn off the ventilator & see if they can breathe on their own. If you notice too when the family does CPR there’s no reaction from him further backing his prognosis. Lastly, a brain dead person can continue to defecate for a week or more with the help of a ventilator which he’s on. So, that proves nothing.
All of their accusations have a medical explanation but sadly their hope & fear of losing him is blinding them from reality.
Wow! Great overview and insightful!
Right! If he is having or had a bowel movement that can mean his body was shutting down. My question is was he declared brain dead? Did he sign something to say that he wanted to donate his organs? There are some many unanswered questions. I pray the family get the answers and the care if need for him.
This is all true. My Prayers to the family
Thank you for that!!
Stfu Ashley let them have hope
There’s hope and then reality.
STFU
You know nothing. STFU
too bad you don’t realize that hospitals make a lot of money from organs and are super quick to pull the plug. Many many survival stories of families who refused to allow them to do so and the person woke up with little to no brain damage.
These comments are replete with misinformation. Once a person is deceased, the muscles loosen, which causes deceased people to pee and poop post mortem. It is basic science…look it up.
The nerve of that hospital! I would have done the very same. Mothers first Instinct Is too protect your child.
Lord Jesus why? I can’t believe he’s in a medical facility and no medical personnel is attending him. Can’t believe this. Praying for his family,this is horrible ❤️
lol who put the ventilator, those drips or tube feeding in the room? Obviously he wasn’t being neglected. There’s more to the story
Praying for the family and this young man. I am in healthcare and there are so many things wrong here. I keep telling people these hospitals, doctors, healthcare companies are killing patients for profit. If we had to leave then guess what my son was leaving with us. I would have called for an emergency transport to another facility immediately via ems. He carrying him out. This is tragic and traumatizing. God we need you
They are not helping oh my I am so sorry my heart is pouring my Father in heaven please help this family
Atrium Health gave me something in my IV that caused severe itching, after 3 days of me being there and on IV meds the entire time, this night nurse that had her head wrapped in a white cloth, administered something different that caused the severe itching. She swore out that she didn’t and I never saw that nurse again, throughout my remaining nights in the hospital.
Lord, please help this family.
Father, God please step in and take over cover this young man from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet, his bed ,his entire room ,put a shield around him and his family so ther is no more interference and be a hedge of protection for this young man and his family in Jesus Name Amen 🙌🙏🙏🙏
This gives me anxiety 😭 thw same thing almost happened to me at a different hospital. The nurse put something in my IV. She thought I was sleeping. I caught her just in time, only a little bit of what ever she put in cause my heart to speed up to 150 it made the monitor go off…when tell you the lady tried to force me to stay in bed. I snatched the whole IV out of my arm and ran out the room. Ro my surprise a nurse was standing by my room door with a crash cart! I filed a complaint with the hospital nothing was done about. And I too was an organ donor. After that I took it off my license.
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Your perception of events is just a perception and unlikely to be true. I’m sorry you’ve likely scared yourself into a conspiracy.
You sound like a terrible patient and human being.
YOUR HEART RATE WENT UP BECAUSE YOU WERE FREAKING OUT AND TRYING TO GET OUT OF BED.
You’re just ignorant and rude.
Omg I see lawsuit all over this live. They didn’t shock him nor try to recesitate him. Contact a lawyer and show them this. This is a sad a*s shame. My heart and prayers are with the family. I’m in the medical field and both of these lives pissed me off.
Have you taken a basic CPR course as you claim to be the medical field? What would they be “shocking” here? This video shows he is clearly intubated with a pulse.
The ignorance in these comments is frightening.
It really is. A lot of uneducated people in these comments operating on pure emotion
Haha we need ANOTHER pulse!
Great response though.
Father God I ask you to wrap your loving arms around this family. Comfort their hearts and give them the answers they need. May there son Rest In Paradise.